ORAL HISTORY CLIPS
Ed Ichiyama [interview 236]
Starts on Tape Five, between 10 and 12 minute marks
ED ICHIYAMA:
Well, this is the latter part of April or early May, near the end of the war. Now we’re traipsing along the countryside of Dachau then all of the sudden we came across hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of so called prisoners in their black and white prison garb, shaven heads, sunken eyes, hollow cheeks, very scared looking, roaming aimlessly around the countryside. You know a lot of guys don’t believe this but this is near the Swiss border, so there are still snow-covered grounds. These guys were aimlessly wandering in the countryside and to you, what is this? We never heard of concentration camp. Then we saw several guys shred either a dead horse or a dead cow and just eating the raw flesh and as you know if you are starving, with malnutrition, if you eat something solid you’re just going to collapse so that’s what they did. You know, they eat this and they collapsed and further more we saw a lot of other people really lying in the snow. (00:12:00) I’m not sure whether they were dead but anyway collapsed in the snow.
Starts on Tape Five, between 14 and 16 minute marks
ED ICHIYAMA:
We saw these guys aimlessly wandering the countryside. Now, I’m not sure, I don’t know whether we had a direct order or not but some of these guys are saying that that there were direct orders given us that we should not offer them any solace. No water, no food, no medicine or whatever it is but we did that anyway. You know as compassionate individuals everywhere at anywhere would have done it. When you see somebody suffering like that, what is you going to do? Just see them suffer still? Some of these guys even gave them extra blankets.
Starts on Tape Five, between 14 and 16 minute marks
ED ICHIYAMA:
So that night after we stopped, some of us entered the camps and let me tell you that the stench, the stench was so terrible after, I don’t know, 1 or 2 minutes, stench of feces, urine, the aqueous smoke of burning flesh. (00:16:00) I mean indescribable, unbelievable. I couldn’t stand it, of course I went out retching after a minute or two maybe. But the amazing thing is some of these guys with stronger constitution, leisurely roamed around the compound. And you know what they found? They found huge ovens still warm and next to the huge ovens, they saw lots of 50-gallon drums filled with ashes. Now, nobody are saying these are human ashes because we don’t know but you can only surmise and these are huge ovens and not ovens for big loaves of bread, huge, huge long ovens. Now, guys with even stronger constitutions went behind the compound and there was a railroad siding over there and because this was in late April or early May and snow is still cold, they saw what they thought were neatly stacked cord woods and the box go with the railroad cards but upon closer scrutiny, these were corpses.
Starts on Tape Five, between 20 and 22 minute marks
ED ICHIYAMA:
One of the greatest ironies of World War II happened here in Dachau, when members of the persecuted minority, the Japanese Americans, men whose families are still interned in the (00:22:00) United States, reaching out to help members of another persecuted minority, the Jewish people of Europe, and what are our crimes? One for being Jewish and one for being Japanese.